RJ: Are you a lawyer, Kat? Kat: No. RJ: Well, go to law school, pass the bar, and then I'll be happy to resume this conversation. Kat: Right, but I don't need to go to law school to know that the sanctioned torture of children is a moral issue, and I don't understand why. RJ: Legal said no, Kat. Kat: But. RJ: I know that's not a word that you hear often, but it's a word that's not gonna change. Grow up. Move on.